Wow, so she stalked Evon and recruited that one-eyed clown all so she could ride Hero’s junk. I thought it might be something like that. Evee’s personality suggests she is mainly ruled by her id.
I’m really trying not to read too much into things. But “sexually aggressive girl is only that way because she was sexually abused herself” is a rather problematic trope…
Meh, there’s plenty of other perfectly reasonable explanations for her behavior, not the least of which is that she’s a completely psychopath or she’s basically an Evon without inhibitions of any sort, whether it’s about killing someone or riding them. She doesn’t think long-term consequences or anything of the like, she just does whatever she feels like.
It creates a stereotype that is potentially harmful both directly (the sexually abused are always abusers in turn), and in reverse (ie – she’s only aggressive because she’s been abused [or).
How well this plays to that trope is somewhat questionable, but, in essence, the thought is that Evee can be perceived as Evon + extreme abuse, and the result seems to be a sociopath (and soon to be rapist), which was a common character portrayal, though it is losing credibility in the current era.
I personally don’t think that it’s quite that straight forward, in that I think Evee is a more complicated character than such a simple analysis implies, though I am sensitive to what Jarin is expressing.
True. It’s the pleasure centers of the brain that don’t respond. Perhaps
Evee knows this instinctively and is attempting to create a rift between Hero and Evon. Raping a guy does the same to the guy that raping a woman does to a woman. Because Evee is, technically if not factually, Evon’s twin, if the rape succeeds, Hero will always see Evee whenever he looks at Evon.
I think she’s doing this to sully Evon back. Without Evon’s special uniqueness Evee wouldn’t exist therefore never would’ve had to suffer through all that crap. So she’s taking something precious away from Evon out of vindictiveness this has nothing to do with being horny or sexually abused, it has everything to do with demanding attention from Evon and sullying something important to her. It’s complete spite on Evee’s part and if she can drive a wedge between Evon then Evee stands a better chance of killing her and taking her life so she can have the castle and things that she probably feels Evon is undeserving of when Evee probably believes she can better control the world from that throne more than Evon ever could. But that’s just my take on it.
I agree with you wholeheartedly, but that does not change the fact of what she is doing to accomplish it. It is not something to be praised, it is not something to be dressed up, she is committing a disgusting and vile act out of spite and jealousy, and there is no way around it. I will never be okay with someone giving this the okay just because she’s “a woman who knows what she wants,” there is no excuse to display it in a positive light, that’s all I’m saying. However, I honestly do resonate with what you’re saying! It’s fantastic analysis.
I’m not praising or glorifying it either but there are sick people in this world and in stories that do this if anything it exemplifies the sickness left in her from being made an imperfect clone by a horribly imperfect person. There’s far more symbolism at work here than just going “RAPE IZ BAD,” and summing it up to one statement. Unfocus the lense from that statement and reaffix it on the whole picture and there’s far more at stake than just that part of the act and who says it’s rape in particular she’s intending it could be bodily mutilation for all anyone knows considering what she did to the last person’s genitilia she had in her mouth.
I haven’t said that you personally are praising it. I was never even responding to you in the first place. The original comment bothered me, because the person was giving Evee “props” for going after what she wants. That kind of casual glorification is not okay. That’s where the problem lies for me. It’s not the so called symbolism, it’s not the story, it is simply the person’s comment. You’ve gotten far too defensive about the whole thing.
It’s as simple as not commenting to mine with someone else’s input as part of your argument. Because to me you were implying I was agreeing with so I wanted to reaffirm my argument that’s it. I’m neutral on the other end of this computer monitor. If the other person’s comment is what offended you it’s best to respond to their’s and not bleed it over to a separate thread. That’s how misunderstandings happen.
I see what happened. I received an email that said you replied. I didn’t realize that it was to this thread, I thought it was to my comment specifically. What a horrid mix up
Seems Mr. Wax is showing a genetic theory here. I’m not sure what it’s exactly known as; I’ll just call it genetic memory. Because the cells to create Evee were obtained AFTER Evon met Hero, they would have the memory of her feelings for him. Therefore, Evee has those same feelings, in a perverted sort of way.
hahahha
Wow, so she stalked Evon and recruited that one-eyed clown all so she could ride Hero’s junk. I thought it might be something like that. Evee’s personality suggests she is mainly ruled by her id.
I’m really trying not to read too much into things. But “sexually aggressive girl is only that way because she was sexually abused herself” is a rather problematic trope…
Meh, there’s plenty of other perfectly reasonable explanations for her behavior, not the least of which is that she’s a completely psychopath or she’s basically an Evon without inhibitions of any sort, whether it’s about killing someone or riding them. She doesn’t think long-term consequences or anything of the like, she just does whatever she feels like.
Problematic in what way?
It creates a stereotype that is potentially harmful both directly (the sexually abused are always abusers in turn), and in reverse (ie – she’s only aggressive because she’s been abused [or).
How well this plays to that trope is somewhat questionable, but, in essence, the thought is that Evee can be perceived as Evon + extreme abuse, and the result seems to be a sociopath (and soon to be rapist), which was a common character portrayal, though it is losing credibility in the current era.
I personally don’t think that it’s quite that straight forward, in that I think Evee is a more complicated character than such a simple analysis implies, though I am sensitive to what Jarin is expressing.
Well….. this just isn’t Hero’s day, now is it.
not sure if I pity him or envy him.
Evon arrives…
and the verdict is…
grabbing more popcorn.
Nice thing about this is he’s not likely to get the… little guy up… while he’s angry and she has made it plain that’s what she wants.
She may threaten him a bit for the lack of… uh, standing… but Threatening a guy won’t fix that particular… problem.
I guess a lot will depend on how Evee “handles” it. 😀
Budum-tsssss
Actually, it’s easier to get a guy up against their will than you seem to think.
Well, I can’t really judge on that. Anytime a strong woman tells me she wants “it”, I stand tall. Can’t help it.
True. It’s the pleasure centers of the brain that don’t respond. Perhaps
Evee knows this instinctively and is attempting to create a rift between Hero and Evon. Raping a guy does the same to the guy that raping a woman does to a woman. Because Evee is, technically if not factually, Evon’s twin, if the rape succeeds, Hero will always see Evee whenever he looks at Evon.
Major role reversal here.
Well even if she is a major psycho.she still knows what she wants. And goes after it. Got to give her her own props for that.
“Props” for sexual abuse and possible rape? How about no
I think she’s doing this to sully Evon back. Without Evon’s special uniqueness Evee wouldn’t exist therefore never would’ve had to suffer through all that crap. So she’s taking something precious away from Evon out of vindictiveness this has nothing to do with being horny or sexually abused, it has everything to do with demanding attention from Evon and sullying something important to her. It’s complete spite on Evee’s part and if she can drive a wedge between Evon then Evee stands a better chance of killing her and taking her life so she can have the castle and things that she probably feels Evon is undeserving of when Evee probably believes she can better control the world from that throne more than Evon ever could. But that’s just my take on it.
I agree with you wholeheartedly, but that does not change the fact of what she is doing to accomplish it. It is not something to be praised, it is not something to be dressed up, she is committing a disgusting and vile act out of spite and jealousy, and there is no way around it. I will never be okay with someone giving this the okay just because she’s “a woman who knows what she wants,” there is no excuse to display it in a positive light, that’s all I’m saying. However, I honestly do resonate with what you’re saying! It’s fantastic analysis.
I’m not praising or glorifying it either but there are sick people in this world and in stories that do this if anything it exemplifies the sickness left in her from being made an imperfect clone by a horribly imperfect person. There’s far more symbolism at work here than just going “RAPE IZ BAD,” and summing it up to one statement. Unfocus the lense from that statement and reaffix it on the whole picture and there’s far more at stake than just that part of the act and who says it’s rape in particular she’s intending it could be bodily mutilation for all anyone knows considering what she did to the last person’s genitilia she had in her mouth.
I haven’t said that you personally are praising it. I was never even responding to you in the first place. The original comment bothered me, because the person was giving Evee “props” for going after what she wants. That kind of casual glorification is not okay. That’s where the problem lies for me. It’s not the so called symbolism, it’s not the story, it is simply the person’s comment. You’ve gotten far too defensive about the whole thing.
It’s as simple as not commenting to mine with someone else’s input as part of your argument. Because to me you were implying I was agreeing with so I wanted to reaffirm my argument that’s it. I’m neutral on the other end of this computer monitor. If the other person’s comment is what offended you it’s best to respond to their’s and not bleed it over to a separate thread. That’s how misunderstandings happen.
I see what happened. I received an email that said you replied. I didn’t realize that it was to this thread, I thought it was to my comment specifically. What a horrid mix up
<3 it happens dear, see? No internet fight so no worries :D!
Seems Mr. Wax is showing a genetic theory here. I’m not sure what it’s exactly known as; I’ll just call it genetic memory. Because the cells to create Evee were obtained AFTER Evon met Hero, they would have the memory of her feelings for him. Therefore, Evee has those same feelings, in a perverted sort of way.